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Argentina. Alberto Fernandez spoke about Israel, anti-Semitism and AMIA terror attack

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Agencia AJN.- Before the 26th anniversary of the terrorist attack on AMIA, which claimed 85 lives on 18 July 1994, Argentine President Alberto Fernandez gave an interview to the American Jewish Committee (AJC) where he talked about Argentina’s relationship with Israel, about the global fight against anti-Semitism and about AMIA bombing.

«We are the second largest community outside of Israel and for us there is a very strong brotherhood with the community. The attack took the victims away and took a piece of each of us,» he added in dialogue with Dina Siegel Vann, director of the Belfer Institute for Latin American Affairs of the AJC.

Relations with Israel

Regarding his visit to Israel in January to participate in the Holocaust International Forum and the meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Fernandez stressed that «relations between Israel and Argentina are optimal, and they should be. We are obliged to have very good relations because we have a very important Jewish community. There is no room for us not to get along. That day was very moving for me. We remembered a moment in history that mixed tragedy and freedom, the misery they suffered in Auschwitz and the liberation. Any human being can only be touched by something like that. It was very shocking”.

«I was able to meet Netanyahu and we were able to talk very frankly. I will always be grateful because he was very generous with Argentina helping with the debt and the problem with the IMF.»

He also recalled that «Argentina was the only non-European or North American country that participated». «I’m glad about Argentina’s participation because it’s the country I want, looking for freedom and respect for others.»

As for the Israeli Prime Minister, he recalled: «I was able to meet Netanyahu and we were able to talk very frankly. I will always be grateful because he was very generous with Argentina by helping with the debt and the problem with the IMF. He was very willing to help us and really helped us. I am grateful. I hope that the bond will continue to be this: a bond of affection, of commitment.”

In addition, he said he discussed with Netanyahu about «how to deepen trade between Mercosur and Israel, and he transmitted me some things to review in relation to rates that I already shared with the other presidents of the block, to take into account and correct».

Anti-Semitism

Regarding Argentina’s adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism, the President said: «Anti-Semitism in Argentina is absolutely linked to right-wing extremist groups. The Argentine left is not anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist or anything like that. There are tiny right-wing groups, which are somewhat neo-Nazis, but they are tiny, which appear sporadically and generate repugnant acts such as painting swastikas. The vast majority of Argentina doesn’t have this problem.

«We have in the province (of Buenos Aires) the first governor of Jewish origin, and nobody started to think if he is Jewish or not, it is his qualities that have taken him there.»

«The Jewish society is part of the full Argentine society. It is integrated. Everyone respects their religion, their origin, it is not something that Argentina has to suffer. The societies that suffer from that, a society that discriminates or mistreats another sector, is a suffering society, that does not advance. Argentina does not have that problem. For us to adopt the broadest definition of anti-Semitism is easy, because that’s what most Argentines believe. There has never been that debate,» he added.

He also referred to Axel Kicillof: «We have in the province (of Buenos Aires) the first governor of Jewish origin, and no one thought about whether he is Jewish or not, it is his qualities that have led him there. Nobody stopped voting for him or voted for him because he was Jewish, but because of the ideals he expresses».

Fernandez also noted that anti-Semites are «a tiny minority that when it appears is repudiated by society as a whole. A society that segregates, that divides, that mistreats is a bad society. In social terms it is bad, the human condition does not authorize us to discriminate against another because of ideologies, their origin, their creed, their skin color. When discrimination appears in a society, the only thing that that society does is to degrade itself, to become a worse society. In Argentina there are very small episodes that when they appear are repudiated.”

«The best societies are those that respect others, those that develop best, those that give rights. The problem that the Jewish people have suffered throughout history, which has had its most terrible point with the Holocaust, leads us to have to make sure that this does not happen to anyone. The decree that takes the IHRA definition does not cost anything, because that is what most of us believe,» he stressed.

AMIA bombing

«AMIA terror attack was very painful for all Argentines. It was not against the Jewish community, it was against Argentina. Many of the victims are members of the community, but they are Argentines and it hurts», Fernandez said.

A sensitive moment in the conversation was when the Argentine president recalled that one of the 85 victims of the attack had been his student at the Law School: «I was a teacher at the UBA and had Paola Czyzewski as my student. It hurt me a lot when I had to give her an exam, an 8, and I called her to give her the exam and they told me that she was in AMIA at the moment of the attack. She was a very loved and respected student, a very good student, and she had met her death in such a tragic way.”

Iran and the Memorandum of Understanding

«Argentina is trying, sometimes better and sometimes worse, to find out what really happened there (in the attack). Argentina’s obstacle to justice was that Iran never gave in nor allowed the extradition of those whom Justice considered guilty. Argentina has had problems moving forward with the investigation until today. We are not at peace with this; we continue to demand that the guilty parties take responsibility for what they have done. It is a debt that we owe Argentina, because there are people who have done something tremendous and have not paid, went unpunished,» said the head of state.

«The Memorandum, which I criticized a lot, was an attempt to unravel this cause. We need to know the truth. As long as that truth is unresolved and the justice process is not completed, we are not in peace. Every day that a commemoration of the attack is approaching is a deep sorrow for all of us, to know that we could not materialize that which is so important as a society which is the imperative of justice,» he said.

Terrorism and Hezbollah

Regarding the decision to keep Hezbollah on the list of terrorist organizations, Alberto Fernandez said: «Terrorism has no place to grow in any democratic society. It must be punished because it disturbs tolerance and peace».

«We have always condemned terrorism, this management and the previous ones.»

«Argentina has a past of having endured state terrorism (the 1976 civil-military dictatorship). We know what that means: thousands of disappeared, many murdered, others exiled. Terrorism is inadmissible and it is impossible for it to coexist with a democracy. With Hezbollah, action has been taken, blocking their assets and preventing them from financing their operations. We have always respected that,» he said.

«We have always acted in the same way. We have always condemned terrorism, this management and the previous ones. And it has to do with what happened to us as Argentines. This should not be debated. It’s like discussing the Holocaust, that only generates repudiation and we must put ourselves on the side of the victims. It cannot be questioned or denied, it must be remembered and prevented from happening. Avoiding it and not remembering that it exists allows it to resurface,» he said.

In addition, he said: «We have seen how terrorism has spread and how it ends up attacking innocent people. We cannot tolerate that. When we take that position, we don’t do it with the intention of having leadership, in any case it is a call for reflection to the international community. It alters democratic coexistence, it alters social coexistence and, worst of all, it takes away innocent victims, who are not at war or in the conflict, they are just victims, like Paola.
In this, we in Argentina are inflexible. We know what this is about, and we know that it is something that only causes us pain.»

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Venezuela and the United States

After discussing the previous subjects, the president was consulted about the situation in Venezuela, and he said that «we must be careful». «We share the idea that democratic coexistence is altered in Venezuela,» although he clarified: «I am not willing to impose a solution on Venezuela.»

About United States, Fernández stated that «Argentina and the US have a correct relationship». «We have some differences but we have to learn to live together respecting this differences», he said.

«The differences also appear when we talk about Venezuela. I would say that with the U.S. we share the idea that democratic activity in Venezuela has been altered. If a country has seen so many citizens emigrate, it is clear that democratic coexistence must be resolved. About the solution and the way to solve it, we do not agree. In the midst of an economic crisis, a blocking is not a solution. There are Venezuelans who are suffering from it. If there is a pandemic and a country is blocked, it does not impact only a government, it makes people suffer. In times of pandemics, nobody should put up a blockade,» he concluded.

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Argentina. Milei reflected on the Torah: «Those who play in all directions are the worst»

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Agencia AJN.- Argentinian President, Javier Milei, once again resorted to the Torah, the sacred book of Judaism, to make a «reflection», such is the title of a post on his personal profile on the social network X that alludes to the political situation in his country, although in general terms.

On this occasion he referred to the current parashah (weekly reading portion of the Torah), Toldot, corresponding to the Book of Breishit (Genesis), which extends from perek (chapter) 25 and pasuk (verse) 19 to 28:9.

«The parasha says that Rivka, the wife of Yitzchak (Rebekah and Isaac), was worried when she was pregnant, because when she passed by a place of sanctity she felt that her son wanted to go there and when she passed by an impure place, too. And she was worried. and she went to consult with a prophet. The prophet answered her: you have two sons in your womb. One will be a leader of the people of Israel (Yaakov, Jacob) and another Esav who will be very evil, and will want to harm Yaakov and his offspring. And then she calmed down,» said the South American president.

«The question: does Rivka calm down after she is sure that she has a completely evil son, and before when she thought she had only one son she didn’t know what he would be like she was very disturbed?,” he asked.

«The answer: Rivka, when she thought that she had a single son, that he was LUKE without ideology and played for both sides, that worried her a lot. But then she found out that she has two, and it is clear that one plays for one side and the other completely the other way around, she calmed down,» Milei answered.

«Moral: Those who play for all sides are the worst of all, even much worse than the one who is completely evil. Because the one who is evil and shows himself as such, we have identified him. On the other hand, the other behaves like a good person and we never know what his attitudes and his evil intentions are,» he concluded, before saying goodbye with a «SHABAT SHALOM.»

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Argentina | Holocaust and Heroism Day. President Milei’s major speech against anti-Semitism and terrorism

»Therefore, in keeping with our history and with what we consider to be true, we ratify today our spirit of friendship and collaboration with the State of Israel and we offer Argentina’s candidacy for the International Presidency of the IHRA», expressed Milei.

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Agencia AJN.- At an event organised on Wednesday by the Delegation of Argentinean Israelite Associations (DAIA) and the Holocaust Museum of Buenos Aires to commemorate Holocaust and Heroism Day, the 81st anniversary of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, President Javier Milei announced ‘Argentina’s candidacy for the presidency of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’ (IHRA).

The IHRA is an intergovernmental organisation of 35 states whose aim is to combat acts of anti-Semitism, intolerance and discrimination that can lead to genocides such as those experienced by humanity in the 20th century.

The main event was also attended by Nazi survivors, relatives of people kidnapped by Hamas, national, provincial and municipal authorities, judges, political leaders, diplomats, representatives of different religious denominations, community leaders, among others.

President Milei’s full speech:

At the outset, I would like to pay tribute to Lior Rudaeff, an Argentinean living in Israel who was kidnapped and murdered by the Hamas terrorist organisation on 7 October.  I would like to extend my sincere condolences to his family and loved ones, and call for the return of his body so that he can be given a proper farewell by them. Baruch Dayan Haemet to him and to all the victims of Islamic terrorism in Argentina and the world.

Today more than ever there can be no doubt that the scourge of Islamic terrorism on Israel and the Jewish people is not a problem alien to us Argentines, but one that affects us directly. First, because 21 Argentines were murdered by Hamas on that tragic day, 20 more Argentines were kidnapped and today, seven months after the attack, there are at least eight compatriots for whom we still do not know whether they are still among us or whether they have passed on to another life. Secondly, because when a battle is fought between good and evil, between freedom and oppression, between civilisation and barbarism, taking sides is not one option among others but a moral obligation.

Today we are here to remember perhaps the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind, we are doing so under the name of Holocaust and Heroism Day, and I would like to pause to discuss with you this second concept, heroism. Because I believe that the heroism and virtue of men is the flip side of tragedy, it is the only thing that can make the righteous prevail over those who seek to oppress them and rob them of their freedom. And because I believe that in times of darkness, when speaking out is costly and when the majority prefer to turn their backs on righteousness for their own convenience, promoting virtue is a commandment and a duty.

We remember today the Jewish resistance in the Warsaw ghetto, where 300,000 souls were imprisoned in inhumane conditions for three years by the Nazi regime, only to be transferred to extermination camps as we all know. We remember that one day in 1943 the prisoners took what few weapons there were and put up a fight. For 27 days they fought for their freedom, under unequal conditions and with virtually no chance of success. They fought for their freedom, which is a just cause in every time and place, and they chose to die fighting rather than be killed.

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The struggle for freedom against adversaries always more powerful than themselves has been a constant in the history of the Jewish people, and has forged for them a heroic spirit, a warrior spirit. This is already clear in the sacred scriptures, it is seen in the exodus of the Jewish people from Egypt, escaping from the yoke of Pharaoh, leaving behind slavery to embrace freedom. The revolt of the Maccabees is clear when, despite being in a distinct minority, the least against the most, the weak against the powerful, they drove out the Greek invader and recaptured Jerusalem. It was never the number of soldiers that mattered, but the forces that came from heaven.

Fighting battle upon battle for over 4,000 years, though many were lost and though the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed twice, the Jewish people persisted. And today again, being under threat, surrounded by enemies who pursue a goal akin to the goal of those who imprisoned more than 300,000 souls in the ghetto 80 years ago, because the intention of Hamas on 7 October was the same as that of the Nazis, to directly and deliberately murder innocent people, if they did not do it on a larger scale, it was not because they did not want to but because they could not.

Today, we see in parallel to these sad events a recognition in the world of both intolerant Islamic fanaticism and anti-Semitism in its different versions. And to make matters worse, we see how all these phenomena are not perceived by the free world with the sharp condemnation and firm action they demand, but with discomfort and ambiguous gestures. I look around me at the rest of the leaders of the free world, especially the leaders of the great nations that should be the pillars of global freedom, and I see indifference in some and fear in others to stand on the side of truth.

Today the world is silent while there are still more than 100 hostages suffering, eight of whom are fellow Argentines. Not to mention the blatant anti-Semitism that has become commonplace on the campuses of educational institutions entrusted with the professional and human training of the West’s elites. I believe that the heroism we talk so much about and want to promote is also to defend the truth, to speak the truth when around us the truth is silenced.

That is why when the world is silent, we have an obligation to speak out, because it is the silence of the good that allows the barbarity of the bad, and because speaking out, looking straight and not turning a blind eye, even though it is difficult, even though for many it is inconvenient, is the only way to ensure that the Shoah is not repeated.

And because God will not accept justifications or exculpations when it comes to rendering his ultimate judgement, we will not be able to tell him what, but I could not or what virtue was not convenient at the time, he will not judge us for what we thought, believed or wanted, but for having done the right thing in life. That is why today remembering the Shoah, remembering heroism and denouncing Islamic terrorism is an obligation, because without heroes we are defenceless in the face of an ever darker and longer night.

In closing I would like to thank Marcelo Mindlin, Jorge Knoblovits and the rest of the authorities of the DAIA and the Holocaust Museum for organising and inviting me to be part of this commemoration at such a difficult time for the Jewish people that demands that we all work back-to-back.

I also want to tell you that Argentina is a historic friend of the Jewish people. We were the first country in the region to recognise the existence of the State of Israel and today we proudly have the largest Jewish community in Latin America and the tenth largest in the world. Together with the Jewish community, we have suffered the cowardly attacks by the Iranian government, not only on the Jewish-Argentine community, but on the Argentinean people as a whole, which, thanks to the persistent efforts of those who seek the truth, are now, three decades later, beginning to be clarified.

Therefore, in keeping with our history and with what we consider to be true, we ratify today our spirit of friendship and collaboration with the State of Israel and we offer Argentina’s candidacy for the International Presidency of the IHRA (video), an institution whose value takes on new relevance and urgency every day, at a dark time, when the rest of the world is turning its back on Israel, they will find us at their firm side always.

Finally, and lastly, I would like to conclude with a letter from Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, which seems to me to be very pertinent to the times we are living in and which should be present in our lives every day. This letter says: ‘Those who are convinced that their opinions are true and correct must express them constantly and at every opportunity with candour, and without regard to the degree of support they have and the level of opposition they will encounter. Lies need supporters to succeed; lies need the authority of majorities to fill what they lack in the rightness of their argument. Truth, on the other hand, will always win out in the end. Even if it takes time, noble, courageous and pure, expressed with all the ardour of conviction and with all the clarity of a sure conscience, expressed again and again on every occasion, it will eventually win the respect and esteem of even those who refuse to accept it. The only truth that has been lost without the possibility of regaining it is that whose possessors have not the courage to speak frankly of it. Truth was never defeated by the forces of resistance, it was only defeated when its possessors were too weak to defend it’.

Thank you very much.

 

 

 

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